4P1L Siberian Gen1 upgrade

Some of the DIYAudio fans have built this version of the 4P1L with great success. There are several upgrades that can be easily implemented to improve this. I haven’t tried this myself, but my recent experience with the Gen3 and the 01 preamp gen2, I think are worth trying:

  1. Replace the gyrator FET for a cascoded pair (M2 and M4 below) to improve PSR
  2. Replace voltage reference by a cascoded LND150 for better HF and PSR response
  3. Optimise the LF pole of the gyrator load by increasing R4 to 4.7 MΩ and reduce C1 to 220nF
  4. Bias 4P1L to about 30mA. This will reduce distortion

Hope this is useful

Ale

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Author: Ale Moglia

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4 thoughts on “4P1L Siberian Gen1 upgrade”

  1. Accidentally,
    while you were posting this Gyrator update, I tried to implement -starting from the JFET cascoded 26 Gyrator you published- something pretty similar (as above) except that a J310 is used instead of your M4 (DN2540).
    It seems to work, but as I do not have any further measurement equipment at hand …. would you mind to comment why you selected as M4 a DN2540 instead of another JFET?
    Kind regards,
    Ulrich

    1. Simply because I have many of them in stock. I think J310 should be a good choice in the lower position. Would be interested in your comments on how it sounds though.

      1. Fine & thanks for your reply!
        I’m not sure the comparability of my (future) comment, as I’m going to use the 4P1L as the first stage of a hybrid amp I’m on.

        2nd stage will be 2SK82 based, one of the few SITs featuring a triode-like behavior.
        My current first stage misses a little gain (Mu 5.7) and due to your constant posting I got some of the 4P1Ls; so I’m keen to give that DH(T/P) a try. Maybe later also as a pre.
        Ulrich

        1. If 4P1L is used as a driver, then don’t starve the filaments and use them in full tilt as needed. Either in parallel or serial mode. I’d recommend serial filaments as driver to ensure you have a smaller resistor in filament bias. Good luck and keep me posted!

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