8 thoughts on “Pentode driver with feedback (Part I)”

  1. I gotta think about that design Ale….it’s different.
    But it must be time for you to, at least, sim or think about the Frank Blohbaum designs.
    The 3 watt UCL11 SE amp I built is remarkable.
    stay safe, t

  2. Hi Tim
    Already worked with Frank’s design. Heard one of its implementation at ETF and sounded good. I’m not a fan of global feedback I have to admit. Also I prefer the shunt (folded) cascode instead of Frank’s MTA circuit as replaces the rather small anode resistor of the first pentode stage with a CCS. Improves PSR and linearise the pentode.

    I built a flexible PCB with the circuit and also the best pentode with screen feedback with a MOSFET and BJT. Never got around at playing with it a lot. Also Frank’s design is patented….

    Cheers, Ale

    1. Hi Ale,
      remember that the load on Frank’s pentode (the rather small resistor) is working the tube at constant voltage.
      Have a look at constant voltage load lines.
      If you look at his 300B circuit Fig 26 there is no GNF.
      best
      t

      1. Hi Tim, my bad sorry, thanks for pointing that out. Like in the shunt cascode, the triode operates in a vertical load line correct. You need to operate the valve at high current levels (where transconductance is the highest), however, as I proved on my experiments, it’s tricky to get the right balance between all parameters when you want to swing lots of volts. The 6e5P is a good exception as Rod Coleman demonstrated.
        As you can see on Frank’s work, most of designs include some level of FB to reduce overall distortion. This is one of the reasons. The 300B design is an exception though

  3. I’ve never had “luck” with some FB.
    This pentode driver is really very complex.
    I know of a cathode driver from hamradio power amplifiers, always use it. It takes a little more power to drive, but it always works well.

    1. Hi Rajko. The challenge with FB is to implement it right from a sound perspective. What cathode driver circuit are you referring too? Yes, the circuit ended up complex, however it was an experiment. There are ways to simplify it.
      Yet, you can get marvellous performance of pure-pentode and or A2 triodes (e.g. like 811a) when you implement “plate to grid” feedback. I like that design and resulting amp is a simple circuit.

        1. Hi Rajko.
          Yes, that is precisely the way to do it for an output stage. I prefer driving the cathode with a PMOS. Only drawback is that needs some good heatsink as may dissipate about 8 to 10W. I did some experiments with an 811a and got out 14W at less than 1% THD in SE with the local feedback arrangement. Very nice indeed.

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