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DHT day

DHT in excess

We met yesterday at Andy Evan’s with our friend Tony for an interesting set of tests. Firstly we looked at measuring Andy’s 4P1L SE and PSE amplifiers:

  1. 4P1L SE LL1682: a great sounding amp overall which sounded as well as it measured. A must amplifier to listen to!
  2. 4P1L PSE (O’Netics OTs). This one particularly revealed an issue with the 4P1L driver configuration as it was running out of steam at about 2W before distortion creeped in. I think Andy will look into fixing this shortly. It also showed a slight dip above 10kHz up until 20kHz which may be attributed to the O’Netics.
  3. 4P1L PSE which I nicknamed the “Daemon” as it nearly screwed up my measurement gear due to some nasty grounding issues. We decided to give up on testing the response of this amp after this.

Andy’s speakers are Mark Audio Alpair 10s full range in some standing 23L cabinets. They do sound great with a solid bass and detailed treble. Perhaps a bit higher on the treble, but they are worth every penny.

We set the listening session to rotate the amps as well as the preamplifiers:

  1. 4P1L Siberian Gen 3
  2. Andy’s 26 preamp, filament bias, LL1692 step down transformer and Rod Coleman regulators.
  3. Tony’s 30sp with Rod Coleman regulators and depletion FET CCS loads
  4. 01a preamp Gen2 

In my opinion, I think we can draw a conclusion to the 4P1L-4P1L-4P1L configuration. Perhaps it’s the H3 harmonic profile, but it doesn’t sound good – a bit harsh on the treble. The challenge in my view was that one 4P1L stage driver wasn’t sufficient to bring out to life in full Andy’s system. It forced the DAC to swing higher output levels and didn’t sound as good as with the preamps.

Don’t get me wrong here, all the preamps sounded great, however there were subtle differences which showed that 01a was superior in this setup. The 26 was also outstanding as expected, however the 30sp was slightly thin. The three agreed on the evaluation carried out and we concluded that 01a-4P1L-4P1L was a wining formula!

The 01a brought a level of clarity that it was superior. The piano, bass, snare drums, brass and voices we listen to in detail across various test tracks sounded with a level of detail and delicacy which was unique. This was a surprise to all, as we were expecting a system with 2 stages to be the superior combination. I wish the 4P1L could have a gain of 20! 🙂

Here are some few pictures of the messy DHTs spread around:

Andy’s HT supplies
4P1L Gen3 preamp, 01a Gen2 preamp, Tony’s 30sp preamp and Andy’s 26 preamp
Andy’s 4P1L SE Amp
What a mess on the floor!
First tests on the 01a, 4P1L preamps into Andy’s 4P1L SE Amp
wiring 01a, Slagle’s AVC and 4P1L Preamp into Andy’s 4P1L SE
Andy’s 4P1L PSE
Andy’s 4P1L PSE a.k.a “The daemon”

Thanks Andy for hosting a great day.

Here are Andy’s impressions posted in DIYAudio of our great experience testing the preamps and the 4P1L  SE and PSE amplifiers:

“I had a very interesting day today with Ale Moglia and a friend of ours, Tony. We auditioned 4 line stages. Amp was a PSE 4P1L, with 4P1L input (plate choke and FT-3 coupling cap). Speakers were Mark Audio Alpair 10s. Full range, 23 litre infinite baffles. We placed them in this rank order:
1. Ale’s 01A
2. 26 into LL1692A stepdown
3. Ale’s 4P1L
4. 30sp

All DHTs and all sounded good – quite alike in having that DHT sound. I think they were all filament bias. Ale’s 4P1L line stage might have suffered from going into two more stages of 4P1L so may be better into a different amp. In that sense it may not be a definitive test, so the jury is out on that. We have known from past experiments that 3 4P1L stages in a row just don’t sound that good.

The 26 preamp was predictably nice, sweet and detailed. Audibly better than 30sp. Just a bit better in this context than Ale’s 4P1L but not far away.

The star without any doubt was Ale’s 01A preamp. It was just stunning. Quite magical. So if it’s a question of building a line stage, this to my ears supersedes the 4P1L. I never expected this – I’ve built 01A preamps in the past, but this is a very clever circuit. you can find it here:

01a Preamp (Gen2) | Bartola Valves

I do urge you to look seriously at this design. It’s a bit special. It was the only one of the 4 we auditioned that actually sounded better in the system than without it. There is enough gain with just the 2 4P1L stages in the amplifier, which I usually drive straight out of a ES9023 DAC. But adding this stage was a better sound. I never expect 3 stages to sound better than 2, but this did.”

(Andy Evans)

 

 

01a Preamp Gen2 finished!

01a preamp gen2 finishedFirst build of 2015, just after the New Year. I’m pleased to listen to the 01a preamp gen2 finished. It’s a beauty, only the warm sound of the 01a thoriated tungsten filaments can provide. A perfect match to the Starlight CD player that was lacking of a bit of gain.

It’s dead quiet, the frequency response is superb and the dynamics are there. Very good bass that improves what I was getting out of the discrete DAC. I love listening to this preamp. A great pleasure. Thumbs up to the return of the 01a. My best Sylvania globe valves are now in use, yay!

Will soon write a proper blog entry for this ultimate preamp.

 

01a Preamp: Build (Part 5)

Finished the preamp build yesterday, still have one power supply to build though. That is the benefit of the Christmas holidays as you have some proper time to work on your projects.

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Magically this time all worked fine from start. The preamp measures really well using the noisy bench power supply:

01a Preamp test 2 FR

As expected the HF response is really good thanks to the design of this stage. The -3dB pole is above 100kHz. LF response is actually better than the shown above as the soundcard LF pole is playing as well.

From a distortion point of view the preamp is performing well at maximum level which the Starlight discrete DAC will be playing at (i.e. 400mV):

01a Preamp test 4 THD vs FR

01a Preamp Test 4

The nice decay of harmonics is characteristic of this fantastic DHT.

 

 

01a Preamp Gen2: Build (Part 3)

The preamp build is progressing, albeit slowly.  I tried a new breadboard construction approach. A nice Ikea chopping board was used to build the front and back wooden panels. A pair of aluminium squared section rails are used to provide support and hold a pair of top plates for the power and audio connectors. As a bonus given the low power consumption of the filaments, I will use these rails as the heat sink for the Rod Coleman filament regulators as well 🙂

All in a very compact design as I literally ran out of space for further equipment in my living room!

01a Preamp Gen2: Build (Part 2)

Spent this afternoon building a compact modular base for the UX-4 sockets, a custom tag strip and the filament bias resistor array. Given the very low power dissipation on the filament resistors they can be placed below the valve socket board to minimise space. The actual size of resistors is a killer, but I have a stock of these lovely wire-wound ones:

Also the gyrator boards were mounted on top of the output teflon capacitors, again to minimise space. The trimpots to set the anode voltage are located at the top for handy adjustment if necessary:

01a preamp (revisited 2013)

CX301a DHT preampLooking at improving the CX-301a preamp with cathode follower output I modified the gyrator load by replacing the DN2540 by a LND150 and 2SK170 which have a lower capacitance and will improve the performance. Likewise, the tail CCS now has low-noise audio transistors such as the KSC1845 and KSC3503. Bias point is roughly the same, a bit lower than before. Overall distortion in the simulation is great: THD<0.005% @ Vo=16Vpp and loading 100K and 330pF (cable load representation).

U2 could be 6Z52P, D3a or PC86. The latter will require and adjustment as the filament is 3.8V and not 6.3V.

I think is time for building and listening to a potential great preamp…