Tag: 01a preamp gen2

3B7 DHT Preamplifier

An enthusiast blog reader (Paul Prinz) implemented a nice version of the DHT preamplifier using the gyrator PCB but for the 3B7 triode. The 3B7 triode has a pair of DHT triodes on the same bottle. It has a high mu for a DHT (about 20) but with that it comes the higher anode resistance. This was a drawback when implementing a choke or transformer loaded stage due to the high anode resistance (there is no free lunch am afraid). However, with the mu-stage, this doesn’t become an issue and we can get the most out of this valve using the gyrator load. 

Although I tried the 3B7 in the past, I proceeded to get it out from my valve stash and trace it again. Here is a nice set of a Sylvania military NOS one:

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01a Gen2 Preamp Build from Barry French

Barry French has recently build his version of the 01a Preamp Gen2. Here are a couple of pictures: 

And Barry’s impressions:

“The 01a Amplifier is a stunner, personally I feel it leaves the 26 out in the cold, better top & bottom by a Country Mile, this was built using the Russian FT-3 Caps on the Output, Russian PIO Caps on the Boards with Jupiter 0.1 μf Wax/Oil Caps from B+ to Ground, the Power Supplies for both Filaments & B+ are from my original 26.”

01a Preamp (Gen2) Universal HT Supply

Introduction

I received many requests throughout this year of folks building the 01a preamp (Gen2) asking for advice on the HT supply design.  Well, I have my own incarnation which serves multiple purposes as is a shared supply, therefore isn’t useful to anyone. 

My friend Andy Evans came up with a supply using available components. This is exactly what you are looking for the HT supply.  I made some tweaks to Andy’s design, so all credit should go to him.

Design

The HT supply design is very simple. It’s mainly a choke-input valve rectifier supply. It has an additional LC smoothing stage. Here is the high-level circuit, see some notes

The transformer is a 250-0-250V / 50VA with an output current of 60mA. It has two windings for 6.3V AC heaters, but you only need one. Here is a great choice from a recommended seller. 

The valve rectifier is a double-diode damper. Of course you can use some other options, but I like the sound of them. Here are some you might want to consider in your build:

  • 6BY5G: a nice double-diode damper with lower filament requirements than the commonly used.  This is my first choice
  • EZ-80: the famous rectifier. This is what Andy used.
  • EY-91: you will need 2 valves as there is one diode per bottle.
  • 6C4P-EV:  a nice Russian small double kenotron rectifier. Very cheap alternative for European builders 
  • AZ1 / AZ11 mesh valves. Their sound is unique, however they are very expensive these days. You will have to add a pair of voltage dropping resistors to accommodate the lower filament voltage requirement. 

For the indirectly heated diodes, it will be better to connect one end of the filaments to the cathode. 

The chokes are commonly available. These are from Hammond (155J) and have 15H @ 30mA. The downside is the high resistance, over 1kΩ. This isn’t an issue here as the current consumption is low so the voltage drop is minimal.  With a choke input supply you need a minimum current to operate. In this case is about 15-16mA so a bleeder resistor is needed (29kΩ 5W wire wound) . 

C1 serves to equalise the output voltage. It pushes the supply to operate a bit more like cap-input (hybrid) by increasing the output voltage. I use it to tune the output voltage to 200V. 

C2 and C3 are classic motor run capacitors. I personally use ASC Oil ones 450VAC rated.  You can choose what you can get hold. You can use any good quality film capacitors. I like the WIMA DC-LINK ones, they are great.

The output ripple is about 7mV. This isn’t a problem as the gyrator load has a very high supply rejection (PSRR) so no need to go crazy on this. If you 

The design is so simple that anyone should be able to build this easily. 

Hope it works for you.

Merry Christmas!

 

 

 

 

 

01a Preamp Build: UV-201a version – step 1

This is what I managed to do with a couple of hours at the workshop. Time is gold for me these days. Quick drilling and fitting the main components. You can’t get a smaller preamp than this one. It’s quite packed:

Planning the layout before drilling
Back panel with all connectors (supply and signal)
Inside the preamp
Close look at the gyrator boards
UV4 sockets with rubber dampers
Fitting a pair of brass base UV201a

Next, soldering. Yay, just looking forward to my favourite part of the build process

 

Tony’s 01a Preamp

IMG_3291I went to see my friend Tony today and helped him to fix his 01a preamp implementation. Time ago Tony used a prototype version of my gyrator PCB to build the Gen2 preamp with the addition of an output follower to address the slew rate limitations he had on his system due to the larger capacitive load.

Luckily we found the fault easily and it was a bad solder in one of the smoothing HT chokes. Once fault was rectified, we proceeded to take some measurements of this preamp.

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Slew Rate (Part III)

Introduction

Are you writing again about the “Slew” thing? There is a lot to be said about the slew rate still. In fact, this post is about some real life measurements and experiences had in the past few days.

This week I went to my friend’s (Tony) place to listen to his 01a with the additional follower discussed previously. Tony complained about that the addition of the follower changed the sound of the 01a. Something was lost, detail on the treble, airiness. I brought up again my test gear and surprisingly we found some H3 level which wasn’t there on the previous preamp. Odd, could that be the FET follower? In the end after several tests, I checked the operating point (you should never assume they should be as expected) and found that the follower wasn’t operating at the optimal level, source current was low and also the 01a was running out of place. I recalibrated the gyrator and voila. The sound of the 01a, came back!

Unfortunately we ran out of time and I did not take any measurements again after re-calibration.

The H3 bug

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Slew Rate (Part 2)

Get thy bearings

Merry Christmas to all!

When I was still a teenager and learning saxophone I came across this wonderful version of “Get thy bearings” by King Crimson. The power of the electrified alto sax  blew me out my mind. Ian McDonald clearly found a way to drive the saxophone there and bring a new sound to the 1969’s progressive rock. Surely he didn’t experience any of this slew rate thing 🙂

In my previous post, I explored the slew rate challenge of the 01a preamp:

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DHT day

DHT in excess

We met yesterday at Andy Evan’s with our friend Tony for an interesting set of tests. Firstly we looked at measuring Andy’s 4P1L SE and PSE amplifiers:

  1. 4P1L SE LL1682: a great sounding amp overall which sounded as well as it measured. A must amplifier to listen to!
  2. 4P1L PSE (O’Netics OTs). This one particularly revealed an issue with the 4P1L driver configuration as it was running out of steam at about 2W before distortion creeped in. I think Andy will look into fixing this shortly. It also showed a slight dip above 10kHz up until 20kHz which may be attributed to the O’Netics.
  3. 4P1L PSE which I nicknamed the “Daemon” as it nearly screwed up my measurement gear due to some nasty grounding issues. We decided to give up on testing the response of this amp after this.

Andy’s speakers are Mark Audio Alpair 10s full range in some standing 23L cabinets. They do sound great with a solid bass and detailed treble. Perhaps a bit higher on the treble, but they are worth every penny.

We set the listening session to rotate the amps as well as the preamplifiers:

  1. 4P1L Siberian Gen 3
  2. Andy’s 26 preamp, filament bias, LL1692 step down transformer and Rod Coleman regulators.
  3. Tony’s 30sp with Rod Coleman regulators and depletion FET CCS loads
  4. 01a preamp Gen2 

In my opinion, I think we can draw a conclusion to the 4P1L-4P1L-4P1L configuration. Perhaps it’s the H3 harmonic profile, but it doesn’t sound good – a bit harsh on the treble. The challenge in my view was that one 4P1L stage driver wasn’t sufficient to bring out to life in full Andy’s system. It forced the DAC to swing higher output levels and didn’t sound as good as with the preamps.

Don’t get me wrong here, all the preamps sounded great, however there were subtle differences which showed that 01a was superior in this setup. The 26 was also outstanding as expected, however the 30sp was slightly thin. The three agreed on the evaluation carried out and we concluded that 01a-4P1L-4P1L was a wining formula!

The 01a brought a level of clarity that it was superior. The piano, bass, snare drums, brass and voices we listen to in detail across various test tracks sounded with a level of detail and delicacy which was unique. This was a surprise to all, as we were expecting a system with 2 stages to be the superior combination. I wish the 4P1L could have a gain of 20! 🙂

Here are some few pictures of the messy DHTs spread around:

Andy’s HT supplies
4P1L Gen3 preamp, 01a Gen2 preamp, Tony’s 30sp preamp and Andy’s 26 preamp
Andy’s 4P1L SE Amp
What a mess on the floor!
First tests on the 01a, 4P1L preamps into Andy’s 4P1L SE Amp
wiring 01a, Slagle’s AVC and 4P1L Preamp into Andy’s 4P1L SE
Andy’s 4P1L PSE
Andy’s 4P1L PSE a.k.a “The daemon”

Thanks Andy for hosting a great day.

Here are Andy’s impressions posted in DIYAudio of our great experience testing the preamps and the 4P1L  SE and PSE amplifiers:

“I had a very interesting day today with Ale Moglia and a friend of ours, Tony. We auditioned 4 line stages. Amp was a PSE 4P1L, with 4P1L input (plate choke and FT-3 coupling cap). Speakers were Mark Audio Alpair 10s. Full range, 23 litre infinite baffles. We placed them in this rank order:
1. Ale’s 01A
2. 26 into LL1692A stepdown
3. Ale’s 4P1L
4. 30sp

All DHTs and all sounded good – quite alike in having that DHT sound. I think they were all filament bias. Ale’s 4P1L line stage might have suffered from going into two more stages of 4P1L so may be better into a different amp. In that sense it may not be a definitive test, so the jury is out on that. We have known from past experiments that 3 4P1L stages in a row just don’t sound that good.

The 26 preamp was predictably nice, sweet and detailed. Audibly better than 30sp. Just a bit better in this context than Ale’s 4P1L but not far away.

The star without any doubt was Ale’s 01A preamp. It was just stunning. Quite magical. So if it’s a question of building a line stage, this to my ears supersedes the 4P1L. I never expected this – I’ve built 01A preamps in the past, but this is a very clever circuit. you can find it here:

01a Preamp (Gen2) | Bartola Valves

I do urge you to look seriously at this design. It’s a bit special. It was the only one of the 4 we auditioned that actually sounded better in the system than without it. There is enough gain with just the 2 4P1L stages in the amplifier, which I usually drive straight out of a ES9023 DAC. But adding this stage was a better sound. I never expect 3 stages to sound better than 2, but this did.”

(Andy Evans)