All about electronic valves and hi-fi
If you have a small room and high-efficiency speakers, then keep reading. If not, you can still enjoy reading about probably the best sounding output valve in my view. The 45. I wrote about it few times and have to say, it’s still one of the best. Better than a 300B but unfortunately can do only 2W. You can use it in Push-Pull and is superb. Have a look at this.
Recently I revisited a beloved amp, the SE 45. This time I will share a more orthodox design without sand in play. Surprised? Well, I love lots of iron as well and here is a design I’ve been playing around for some time as I have all the components at hand.
Last week I looked at optimising the 45 loadline in A2. Clearly we shouldn’t be attempting to get more than 2W from this valve without a significant level of distortion. However, having about of 3W would be attractive for the transient response of this amp.
So how will this circuit perform in a simulation? Let’s see what the spice results are:
The THD is significantly better due to the harmonic cancellation between the two stages. The driver distortion is 0.3% at full tilt (150vpp) and this could be improved. I guess the 6e5p could do better, but interesting to see how the cancellation of harmonics may play around. The new operating point and the stacked supplies will demand different MOSFET parts of 1kV for sure…
What about driving it at full tilt in A2?:
The driving signal has to be about 160Vpp to provide maximum swing, so power is:
H2 distortion:
Which yields a whooping 6%!
Ok, the previous operating point wasn’t optimal from a musicality perspective. As suggested by 45, I reworked the load line for 36mA/275V and anode load of 5.6KΩ (which is what I could get with my OT):
The driver should now provide 
.
The output power will be around:
Efficiency would be around 36% in theory. Happy if around 3W can be obtained from this valve here with a reasonable distortion…
On the previous post I explored how more power could be extracted from the 45 in class A2. Here is a first draft circuit using the 4P1L as the driver stage with a mu-follower gyrator load to provide current with low output impedance:
3.5W can be obtained with 13Vpp input signal. Clearly a pre-amp is required, but that is the output level I’m currently getting from my preamp so should be fine. The LND150 CCS reference can be optimised and derived from the stable 280V.
Not a bad idea, just an additional power supply to avoid any nasty cap in the path.
Having had a great exchange of comments with “45” in a previous post, I thought it was easier to post this after doing some simulations with the 45 DHT in A2 operation.
I’m a great fan of the 45 valve. I think is probably the best sounding DHT out there. I listened to 300B, 2A3 and even 4P1L as an output valve, but nothing compares to me to the warm sound of this valve.
Later specifications of the 45 show that you can push it to 10W of anode dissipation. I’m currently using it at Ia=34mA, Vak=300V with an 2.5KΩ OT. You could get 2W out, but at the moment I’m squeezing 1.5W at maximum drive. There is a way of getting more out of the valve which is obviously by driving it in A2 (i.e. positive grid current). My current project (4-65A SE in class A2) uses a gyrator-loaded driver and stacked supplies which work brilliantly in A2. The driver provides sufficient grid current at low impedance even when the input impedance of the output valve drastically changes when grid current kicks in closer to 0V.
I have a pair of LL1623/60mA which I’m planning to use in the future to try 4P1L PSE or 6C4C output stages. This OT can be configured for 5.6KΩ, 3KΩ and 1.6KΩ anode loads.
Here is a first simulation of the 45 operating in class A2. The bias point was changed now down to 210V/47mA as the OT is configured for 3KΩ load:
The anode AC power is then:
So roughly for Iap=46.5mA and Za=3KΩ, then Pa=3.2W. This is about 32% efficiency. More than double of the current juice I’m getting out of this valve, but at the expense of pushing the grid to +32V and anode peak current of 93-94mA. Grid current should be around 3-5mA from what the AB2 data looks like.
Question is here, is it worth trying this? Complexity of the amp is on the stacked power supplies. The driver will need to swing easily 120Vpp, so a well designed 4P1L in filament bias can do this with minimum distortion.
Thoughts?
A perfect and warm sound
Hard to describe in words what I felt when I played first time “Goodbye Pork Pie Hat” from Charles Mingus. Perhaps it was the due to the fact that I play saxophone, but inevitably for me this song is one of the best ones to test the response of any amplifier. Sax duets, solos, a great bass line and varied moods along the way can take the amplifier to their best of their abilities. Being a jazz fan, couldn’t help myself when listening this amplifier for the first time. I used to play an EL34 push-pull, and liked its sound and power – specially for rock. But when it comes to the first watt, this amplifier is breathless. Pure and a warm tone. Playing this song made me understand all the fuzz about single ended amps. But, far from opening the debate about that, I’m sure that a 45/46 in push-pull has its own merits and would probably will one of those amps I’d like to build in the future.
Having a FE167E full-range driver that have a relatively high efficiency (94dB/W), the 45 SE doesn’t sound low. It has its own personality. Brilliant for jazz, it may need a tad of power perhaps when playing some rock and classic stuff.
It took me some time to optimise the driver stage. Started with an SRPP, then a paralleled 6SL7 to an 6J5 loaded with a gyrator in mu-follower achieving less than 0.20% THD at 150 Vpp. A great driver in my opinion. Now need to replace the 6J5 for the lovely 7193.
It looks like a Frankenstein valve, but it’s a lovely thing to me. Many claim that it’s a superior valve compared to the 6SN7/6J5 or even CV1988.
Adding the 7193 will require opening my 45SE and not having music at home for some time so at the moment is not what I have in mind.
Perhaps when I get the 4-65A up and running? It will take some time for that…