4P1L model improved

 Improving the DHT model in A2

After playing for some time with the uTracer, I found that the tracer wasn’t measuring accurately A2 curves. Ronald clearly advised me (as explained on his site) that uTracer wasn’t designed for this purpose although there was a great trick to use the screen driver to generate the A2 curves and also measure grid current. Measuring grid current is key in A2 mode so a better grid current model can be derived to better simulate the non-linear and low impedance behavior of the grid in positive bias.

My incarnation of the uTracer is not neat. I’m using my existing analogue curve tracer. As shown in the pictures below, my current tracer have a plethora of sockets and just adding right jumper cables for anode, cathode, screen and grid connectors will still give me the flexibility I had with my analogue tracer

The process of generating the A2 curves (and SPICE model) starts by plotting the normal curves. The uTracer is great for this. Then you have to overlay the A2 curves in Excel (or whatever tool you prefer) to combine both set of curves.

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4P1L: Tracing A2 curves (first test)

Just finished the digital tracer project uTracer V3. Did some further tests this morning, now with my favourite DHT: 4P1L.

Started with a well known bias point for triode-strapped operation:

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4P1L triode SPICE model

After playing for some time with Dmitry’s great DHT composite triode models, I looked at refining the model by matching my own set of curves of the 4P1L in triode-mode. Here is my take on it:

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4P1L SPICE model updated

Dmitry Nizh kindly worked out the 4P1L triode SPICE model using his great tool:

4P1L_triode_match

 

Here is Dimtry’s model:

** 4P1L_TRIODE ************************************************************

* Created on Mon Jan 07 07:31:48 PST 2013 using tube.model.finder.PaintKIT
* URL: http://www.bartola.co.uk/valves/valve-curves/4p1l/
*————————————————–
.SUBCKT TRIODE_4P1L_TRIODE 1 2 3 ; P G K ;
+ PARAMS: CCG=8P CGP=7P CCP=9P RGI=2000
+ MU=8.232 EX=1.3719 KG1=851.25 KP=108.0 KVB=528.0 VCT=-1.0 ; Vp_MAX=450.0 Ip_MAX=0.08 Vg_step=5.0
*————————————————–
E1 7 0 VALUE={V(1,3)/KP*LOG(1+EXP(KP*(1/MU+(VCT+V(2,3))/SQRT(KVB+V(1,3)*V(1,3)))))}
RE1 7 0 1G
G1 1 3 VALUE={(PWR(V(7),EX)+PWRS(V(7),EX))/KG1}
RCP 1 3 1G ; TO AVOID FLOATING NODES
C1 2 3 {CCG} ; CATHODE-GRID
C2 2 1 {CGP} ; GRID=PLATE
C3 1 3 {CCP} ; CATHODE-PLATE
D3 5 3 DX ; FOR GRID CURRENT
R1 2 5 {RGI} ; FOR GRID CURRENT
.MODEL DX D(IS=1N RS=1 CJO=10PF TT=1N)
.ENDS
*$

4П1Л/4P1L triode curves 2

Previously I publish my 4P1L/4П1Л triode-strapped curves using my curve tracer. A forum friend who helped me in building my tracer as he was building his own, suggested using two tools for capturing curves (“Graph Grabber“) and plotting curves, loadlines, etc. (“Graph“).

Here is an example of the 4P1L/4П1Л triode-strapped curves using both applications to produce the safe operating area based on 7.5W anode dissipation. This can be extended to 9W if we consider the screen dissipation as well.

 

4П1Л/4P1L triode curves

4P1L triode curves

4P1L pinout

4П1Л (or 4P1L) is probably one of my favourite valves. It was an unknown device to me until was suggested by some friends in the forum. Many discarded it as being a howling beast in pre-amp stages :). I found that albeit it can be microphonic, this can be controlled to a certain extent, but in my opinion this is a great valve in most of the roles: pre-amp, driver or output stage. Preferably is such a linear valve that can easily match 2A3 and 300B characteristics (when arranged in parallel) at a fraction of their cost. You can get a view of this beauty in the datasheet here.

Looking at the specifications, the key points to highlight are:

  • Filament Voltage: 2.1/4.2 volts @ 650mA/325mA respectively
  • Recommended anode voltage: 200V with 150V on the screen
  • Maximum operating voltage 250V anode or screen.
  • Maximum cathode current: 50mA
  • Anode dissipation: 7.5W
  • Screen dissipation: 1.5W

I became aware of this valve when Anatoly (a.k.a. Wavebourn) recommended the 4П1Л  directly heated pentode  which was used in military transmitters. It is very popular now among Russian audiophiles. Apparently is the Russian equivalent of the WWII era German Wehrmacht RL2 / 4P6 RF oscillator / transmitting amplifier tube. It’s a brilliant valve when triode strapped, better than 2A3 / 300B in terms of linearity. See my post around THD here and will see why 4P1L is at the top of the chart with less than 0.03% THD @ +22.22dBu!

As Anatoly suggested, they are very nice for class A in triode, and give up to 2.5W per valve when driven with up to +12V on control grid. It is easy to parallel them, since they are consistent and very linear: paralleling linear valves you are loosing power on mismatch, i.e. the valve with higher transconductance will draw more, no distortion raise caused by mismatch. 2A3, for example, has a pair of paralleled triodes inside. You can parallel ten of 4P1L matching them (it’s easy), to get 100W dissipation and 25W output.

Many found a sweet spot around Va=235V, Ia=40 mA, Vg=-18V providing Pout= 2.5W on a 5K OT, triode connected. Capacitance between anode and first grid for 4P1L is 0.1 pF. Capacitance between screen grid and control grid is about 1 pF. It has a  10 pF Miller capacitance which is not high value, and for 20 KHz it is slight less than 1MΩ impedance. Any driver with 10 mA idle current will make it happy.

4P1L Siberian DHT Preamp

I tested this valve a lot as a DHT preamplifier with great results. Starving filaments and suspending the socket with cord can reduce significantly its microphony to very low levels. I could listen to it perfectly fine whilst my friend Tony still have some issues with a 30sp DHT stage bolt to the aluminium top cover 🙂

I loved the sound of the 4P1L pre-amp. I will build a 4P1L SE in the future, is on my list…

4P1L Siberian DHT pre-amp

Recently, a friend from the diyaudio forum asked me for the 4P1L curves which I posted previously. Here is a new trace of the curves under the following testing conditions:

  • G2 and G3 tied to anode
  • Filaments are in parallel, so If=650mA powered by DC supply.
4P1L-triode curves

 

You can create your model or use the curves to produce your load lines, etc.

Hope this helps